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"For a young lad watching that and thinking about getting into coaching or management, Eddie Brennan's first job in management saw him being defeated by Westmeath with Kilkenny as the under-21 manager. "Another manager walks away from that," McGrath said. "First of all, he doesn't put his eight or nine All-Ireland medals in jeopardy by getting involved in management. "He gets involved in under-21s, at the coalface, he's beaten by Westmeath in Mullingar and he probably has to live with the implications of the reaction to that. "He goes back the following year and wins the Leinster championship. He goes to Laois when he could easily have kept his seat on The Sunday Game or whatever. "The perseverance and the ability to be able to change his approach when he's in management as opposed to playing, it's a special skill set. I couldn't give him enough praise for his whole approach."Watch that chat from 22:36 right here: https://youtu.be/VvgFUtru7Ps?t=1356

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