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"Alex was just thrown in, so from the outset we were trying to make the programme as easy as possible for her," he added. "It was a little bit frustrating because she would ask you a question and then move on to the next person and I would want to say something I had just thought of, but I just had to shut up because she was just learning."The former Liverpool pundit added that he had become fed up with the 'woke' culture at the broadcaster and that he began to rebel against the BBC's safe culture. He revealed: "In all my time at the BBC, nobody ever said you can’t say this or that, but the woke thing drives me bonkers. "Whereas normally you would say the first thing that comes into your head, you’re now thinking, 'If I say that will I get into trouble?' It was a bit like playing with your legs tied together. "The BBC is the national broadcaster and I get that, but they are frightened to death of upsetting anybody." Related links:

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