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"United went down after eight minutes and they never recovered. There were spaces everywhere, they were sloppy in possession. Marcus Rashford never got hold of it, the wide players giving it away. "Every time Man City went forward, they looked like they were going to score. Watching Man City is a pleasure. They're one of the best teams I've seen, watching them live, but for United this is a huge setback. "It's a huge step back. They were 4-0 down at half-time against Brentford. The performance in the second half is no good. There was no aggression in City's play by then as the game was over. They'd made loads of substitutions so it's no consolation."Those comments, coming from a Manchester United legend and a respected football voice, will spark a debate, in the coming days, as to whether this City side are one of the best ever. Since the start of the 2017/18 season, Pep Guardiola has led Man City to four league titles - smashing previous points, goals and goal difference records along the way - an FA Cup and runners-up in the 2021 Champions League. The largest stick to thwack City with is their lack of European success. Erling Haaland's goal-hungry form may soon see City become top dogs in Europe but, until that day, their detractors will say they cannot be considered the best ever until they get some European Cups in their trophy cabinet.

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